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Re: [T3] Bottom-end Rebuild


On 21 Jun 2003 at 8:56, Aaron Clow wrote:

> Finally got the heads off my engine last night. 

> The valves looked fine on 3&4, so I don't think that
> caused my compression problem. I think there was a
> serious leak between the heads & cyls though because
> there was caked oil & dirt on what is the outside of
> the combustion chamber, past the "seal" between the
> cyls & head. The cylinders are very rusted and caked
> with dirt so that there must have been virtually no
> air passing through there as well. 
 
A certain amount of such dirt/oil in these places is normal and will depend on 
how long it's been since the engine was last apart, as well as on the 
conditions the car has been driven in.

> Inside the head exchangers on 3&4 was chunks of
> charcoal. On the other side inside the HE was some
> kind of funny type of acorn or nut that I've found
> throughout the car. I imagine the charcoal on 3&4 was
> once similar acorns. 

I assume the nuts were in the outer half of the HEs, not in the exhaust path. 
Squirrels often seem to leave me "offerings," too. I usually find walnuts on 
top of the air cleaner.  ;-)

> The tops of the inside of the cylinders were scored
> from the top to about 2cm down. I don't know if this
> is normal. The cylinders were otherwise smooth to the
> touch inside. 

Is it possible that what you're seeing is just the space above where the top 
ring sweeps? This space on the cylinder wall always builds up a layer of hard 
carbon deposit. This area is more like 1 cm wide, though. You can try to 
carefully scrape the carbon off with a single edge razor blade; only then can 
you see the actual ridge left by the end of the ring travel in the cast iron 
cylinder wall.  

> Oddly enough, the heads would probably be in good
> shape if they were cleaned up. No visual cracks,
> valves look like they're seating OK.

You still need to check the valve guides. Grab the tops of the springs with a 
large pliers and try to rock them up and down. The wear is usually in this 
direction rather than side to side. I find that I almost always want to replace 
at least the exhaust guides.

> Given all that (probable cooling issues, rusted
> cylinders, dirt everywhere), and knowing this engine
> most likely already has 100,000 miles on it, should I
> abandon my previous idea of just replacing the heads
> and instead do a full rebuild as long as I have the
> engine out anyway? Otherwise, I have new cyls, pistons
> & heads and would just redo the top end...

The most important thing to do is the heads. I'd just get yours rebuilt (NOT 
exchanged.) RIMCO can do a very good job of this if you don't want to do it, or 
if there's no one in your area that you trust. Exhaust valves that have served 
25-50kmiles should just be replaced automatically. BUY good valves, and make 
sure that they have the chrome plated stems that you need for unleaded gas.

I often clean up the old pistons, clean the ring grooves, clean up and hone the 
cylinders and install new rings. Check the wear by inserting a new ring, 
squaring it up in the bore with a bare piston and measuring the ring gap.

You should also check the piston skirt clearance. 

You want to make sure that the bearings are in good shape before you renew the 
power producing stuff, or you may find that he old bearings aren't up to the 
new output. I prefer to go the whole 9 years, including case savers (send to 
RIMCO.) I also prefer to do as much of the work myself because I don't trust 
someone else to be as careful with my parts as I would be.

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Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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