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>>Instead of hacking up a door panel for speaker placement, try using the fiberglass kick panels instead. << Working in a cabinet shop as I do, the wood was free. And works geat, sounds wise as well as looks. >> I have used a pair of Pioneer 6x9's (holes were there from the PO)in the back shelf of my Fasty since I got the car, no front speakers. Plenty loud enough for highway cruising.<< I have 6x9's in the panel on the back hatch now. P.O. hacked them as well, so I made wood panels with 3/4" wood spacers to keep the magnets off the sheet metal first, but it wasn't loud enough at hiway speeds. must be the diff from fasty to square, uhh, ey. >> just stuff 'em in some boxes back there<< too theftable for me, but thanks! Rick Humeny 72 squareback MT FI ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org