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First Type 3 ride was August '64, a 1500S Sea blue Squareback which my Dad bought new. I don't know when I drove it first, but he gave me it in 1975 when Anne and I were about to have our first child. First VW ride would have been in September 1958, a new '59 model Beetle, and first VW owned was in August '66 when I bought my own '59 Beetle. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org