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My '63 Squareback has the original muffler, it's sorta surface rusty though. Looks like they patched it once too. Stupid Canadian weather. What a piece of junk. ;) My ex-'67 Squareback still had the original muffler. San Diego, CA car = perfect condition. My ex-'65 Squareback had an original exhaust I pulled off a 60K mile '66 Fasty in the junkyard. NorCal cars, both of them. My ex-'65 T-3 (Texas/New Mexico car) had the original muffler but it had rotted away at the heater box connections in the past few years from sitting. My '63 Notchback (SoCal/Nevada/Montana) had an NOS Leistritz muffler installed in July, 2002. It is super quiet, enough to make me think every other Type 3 I have ever owned with an original muffler may have been damaged internally. -- Everett Barnes everettb@thesamba.com ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/