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PeterP=> Do Type 3 K.G.'s have the z-bar? Nope, this was only a heavy-load option. I've often considered looking more closely at the Z-bar idea, but my Empi camber compensator makes me very happy. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 KG1600 ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/