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As I told you in a direct message last night Jim, your story was fascinating! Thanks for sharing it with the list. ÒMy Palomar Hill Climb It was the winter of 73-4 and I was working in southern California for a few months. I had a weekend with nothing to do and decided to drive inland and visit the Mt. Palomar Observatory which I had heard about all my life. On the map it looked like it was only about 60 miles inland from where I was living in Carlsbad.Ó IÕll pass one small tidbit about my car. In the early to mid 70Õs in North Dakota we had some extremely cold weather one winter. Those winters are a real test for any car, but my story deals with the legendary starting reliability of the FI Type III. One morning it was Ð41¼ (not wind chill) and my car was outside, not in a garage! I started the car after a very slow one or perhaps two revolutions of the crank. Only only two cylinders fired at first and then after a couple of minutes smoothed out and ran normally. Once the engine was good and warm and humming beautifully, I tried to back it up to exit the drive. Guess what! It was so frozen up nothing I could do would make it move Ñ including hitting the real drums on the inside with a hammer! After a couple of days when the weather warmed up to about Ð10¼ or so, the car would move!! I thought it was fantastic it would even start in such weather! Paul Knox ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/