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Not sure what relationship 49 in.lbs bears to 7 ft.lbs - have you guys been messing with our feet and inches now? ;-) I've checked the Aug '67 automatic trans. section (H21 on) and it only gives the 7 ft.lbs already quoted - no specific system, but it is the first version issued so they wouldn't have had any feedback from workshops. It's rather pretty with colour diagrams of the valve body etc for the different speed selections. I think the normal issues of the separate system manuals start from '69. I've not got the full H manual AFAIK. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/