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So last night i started to remove the stock muffler from my spare motor. I noticed what looked like a part number so , I started to clean in that spot <http://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/index.mv?photo+67492.jpg> And check out what i found...........It shows the applications for this muffler... what is a 1600a? isn't a 1600L, a squareback ? You can see the 1600 TL at the end. And it states Variant also... It also shows a date of 1964- 1970... I haven't see these before on a stock muffler since most are way to rusty. I think this is the OEM one ..it says made in W. Germany... But did VW make these? It says LANGE on it..........hummmmmmm? Interesting no ? Martin Magnia ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org