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The square rides again. I replaced the torque converter seal (put two in there as suggested by Russ?). Everything went pretty well. Thanks again Phil for the torque converter! I think I need to top off the tranny fluid. I was going to try and drain and fill today. Is there anything special I should know about the process or the type of fluid I need? Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org