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No. The Type 34 has L-shaped clips which are fastened by knurled nuts. The clips are not an integral part of the instrument. Behind each instrument there are two long threads onto which you slip the clips and then screw them down with the nut. The clips go into a metal frame behind the dash. _________________________________ Sounds like the way the Type-1 Ghia's are done. I wonder if that was a Karmann Decision as opposed to a Volkswagen Decision?! Anyone know how much say VW had on Karmann's coachworks and how much they were left to their own devices? Travis '66 Fastback www.keedyweb.net/fastback ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/