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> So let me get this straight. One has to remove the ashtray to use this?? > Thus rendering ones car without a change/loose nut & screw holder? > Where will I put the pin to clear washer jet nozzles? Anyway, drinking and driving is only for idiots, though I admit it's one of a few things a Beetle does better than a Type 3 - the trape of limps for gloves is far better for picnic drinks in the Beetle. ;-) Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/