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I got one for my notch and it works pretty good,,,,,,,,,it's pretty much a dual cup holder mounted onto a chunk of wood,,,,,,,the only thing I don't like is that theres no to lock it in to the dash,,,,,,,,but it's definitely better then the freeze your nuts off crouch grip john 65 notch riverside, ca. ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/