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I think its the poor advance curve and low total advance. Its a poor match to our systems and of course without the vacuum advance you dont get the gas mileage. And Yes, the new ones are of very poor quality. If im not mistaken... they are a stock distributor for a 36HP bus. They were a fad thing, people learned... fad passed, now the OE distributors are going back on. Keith > > I wish I knew what was wrong with the 009 that makes everyone hate them. Once > upon a time they were well liked. Is it possible that Bosch cheapened them up > so that now they don't work right? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org