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Oh this is interesting! Yea, Ill bet your right... the early cars used these before they were replaced by the cheaper and just as good O rings. IF you use these make sure the rubber is still good and supple... thats mighty old rubber!. Willing to let us in on where your finding these extinct front end parts? :-) Keith > > Here's some photos of some NOS ones I've just found. > > http://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/index.mv?photo+130325.jpg > > Maybe these were early style only? The ones in the photo look exactly like > the worn ones that came off my '63. > > Yancy Everhart > '66 361 > '63 343 > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org > >