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After ripping into several junkers I would say DO NOT rip out the wiring, leave it! From the examples I've seen after removing factory electrical cloth tape or wire-bundle sheathing, the original wiring and plastic sheathing remains in like-new condition even after all these years. If a wire is in question just simply cut off the weathered, exposed wire down far enough to expose the good looking part and SOLDER the new wire to it, then properly insulate the joint. Toby Erkson -- air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback, '95 VW Jetta, '81 Gold Wing http://www.icbm.org/ Portland, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- > First: I'm having my car painted soon and began to pull the dash apart and > realized I probably need a whole new harness for safty's sake. My question is > do you think it would be wise to rip the whole old one out before I get the > new one!... ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org