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Dang well that is a road trip... : ) Well maybe you can drive down Saturday night...IF you do that stay the night in Fresno (25 mins south) ...I think there is only 1 hotel near the Madera fairgrounds...So you have a better chance in Fresno. Two other quick things...If you go down Saturday night to Fresno and feel like it ..find the In-and-out burger on Blackstone Ave....Most of the Vw hang out there on the weekends... Also Once you are at the show look For: Purple 59 t1 Vert / 67 ghia [Porsche alloyed/2liter monster] or white 66 t1 w/ 2332 ! Those are some guys from my old car club when I lived there , they said they would be there...They are a good bunch of guys to BS with. I wish I could make the trip down....but we will be at the Puyallup show [near Seattle] whew!... Martin Magnia DDB Portland OR 63 notchback.....stock 69 fastback.......not 70 halfback.......stock ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org