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As Toby eluded to , another car went under the blade this last weekend... Here is a photo of the motor that was pulled from the car .... <http://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/index.mv?photo+75366.jpg> The muffler is definitely different from all the others that i have seen , I haven't had time to look for part numbers or stampings yet.. Also check out the m-codes on the pulley shroud....it to shows the "LO" code.... Martin Magnia DDB Portland OR 63 Notch......Stock 69 Fasty......Not stock 70 Halfback...Stock ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org