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Since friday afternoon I've only been able to read email, and haven't been able to send ANYTHING out. While you guys have been having all this good discussion about these great cars, I've been trying to figure out what they changed (the problem is on UW's end, they changed something suddenly friday afternoon and didn't bother to tell anyone what it was, just that there would be a lot of calls for help...!) In the meantime I'm trying to figure out SSL (Secure Socket Layer) and trying to understand STunnel and socket tunneling. If there's anyone out there with experience with this under a Win NT and/or 2000 environment, I'd love to get a personal message from you. Please don't send your reply to the list. thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list | mailto:gregm@vwtype3.org