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<x-charset iso-8859-1>> European VW's used the cal-look seals, whereas American VW's used the > American style with slots for chrome trim. It's hard to digest that European > style rubber was cal-look without the slots for chrome trim, whereas American > style has the slots for chrome trim. Certainly is hard to digest - it's actually not true! AFAIK all Type 3s from Germany originally had the chrome window seal trim. The Parts book does not list any windshield rubber as 'without trim groove' or similar. 'USA' rubber is just an invented name, and is used by WCM for its catalogue to denote 'with trim groove'. Maybe someone in the past has confused the standard (=basic) Beetle rubber, which was without trim, and may have been the origin of the 'cal' rubber. Even then, a standard Beetle is a rare sight indeed. Some later budget model Beetles were also sold without window trim. The trim can be removed, but not very easily if the rubber is hard and non-flexible due to too much sun. Leave the rubber on the glass and peel down the outer edge to open the groove. Take time loosening each part gradually and use some soapy water to help it slip out. Don't do it until you are ready to reinstall again, or you are bound to bend it in storage. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>