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<x-charset iso-8859-1>I've not noticed any difference so far, but I've not run through an set of pads yet, so can't comment with any depth of experience. Although similar to the Type 3 later ones, I'm not sure that the Type 4 calipers, did have the special piston and pin, so maybe that's the price of having thin discs (8mm on the early ones, 10mm on the later, wasn't it?). Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>