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Now that I have read your posts my money is on the computer. The symptoms described are exacltly the same as mine. A good way to check is turn the ignition on, crank the engine (shut the engine off if it starts), leave the ignintion in the "on" position, and walk to the engine compartment. If you can hear that the injectors are still spraying fuel with the built up fuel pressure, and you are sure that the injectors are working properly, the computer is telling the injectors to fire continuously. A simpler way would be to hook up a voltmeter or a test light to the wires that go to one of the injectors. I discovered that there was 12V going to the injectors, which was not right according to the guys on this list. After a lot of work I did to make sure the wiring and all other connections were good, I found that the computer was definately the problem. With the ignition on, I can push lightly on the metal computer box and I can hear the computer triggering the solinoids in the fuel injectors on and off intermittently. When the computer decides to go to a CIS (continuous injection system) mode, the engine starts hard an spews out black smoke when it decides not to hold the injectors open all of the time, the engine runs perfectly. -Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Merritt" <gregm@vwtype3.org> To: <type3@vwtype3.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [T3] 70 Square FI problem??? > > My money is on... the hose between the manifold pressure > sensor and the intake manifold is disconnected. You said they > replaced the spark plugs -- well, that's when they knocked it off! > > Don't let anybody give that shop another nickel. They're > totally guessing -- and they're totally wrong. You're looking to buy > this car, right? Don't let the "running rich" be the make-or-break > factor. If the overall condition and price suit you, see if you can > make a deal, pick it up, get it home, and work through the troubles > with the list's help. Heck -- use the poor running as a bargaining > leverage in your favor! > > Good luck, > -Greg > > ------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> > For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/ ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/