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Keith, I have had 2 sets of Monroe and Gabriel airshocks in my car and all three sets have deflated and gave me a saggy butt. I replaced hoses and tried to salvage them with sealant. I finally bought adjustable coil over spring shocks that worked nicely , no more saggy car butt. I had to make spacers with nuts and washers for the bottom mount. Not too stiff, feels stock and looks stock (level). I have not had any complaints about them , easy to get at any VW shop/store or catalog, mine are from JC Whitney. LEON MARTINEZ SAN DIEGO AND TIJUANA ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/