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>Just to clarify, do you mean shake the road wheel or the steering wheel? I guess I should be looking for excessive inwards / outward movement of the upper arm? > Yes, if you can hear it clunking, the movement will probably be obvious. The only Type 3 that I've owned where I had to adjust that bar, it was *really* obvious. Both wheels clunked when you grabbed the top of the tires and moved them in and out. I drive the car for a while too, it drove a little strange. ;( If that's the problem, you have to get the car aligned after you adjust the bar. -- Everett Barnes '63 1500 ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/