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Sorry Frank, they won't fit. Your 65 Notch has 3 bolt hinges, and the 69 as 2 bolt hinges. I think Tom Hanson did a conversion of the hinges ( he used/made 2bolt to 3 bolt adapters). I don't remember if he detailed them on his web site. You need to look for 65 and earlier doors or Notch only later doors, as they have the 3 bolt hinges. I was talking to John J. this weekend and he said his 66(Sophy) has 2 bolt hinges.I hope this helps. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 69 Squareback-AT ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/