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I think this one can be called French look : http://serontb.free.fr/orangenotch.htm That was the one you were thinking about, Per? And no, this is not mine! Basically, according to Super VW magazine, French look is a VW with a "modern look", i.e. modern alloy wheels (but I would say not especially Porsche style), modern interior, usually a bright "flashy" color, no chromes or a minimum. More often than not they are inspired by rally cars, very popular in France : bare painted interior, front seats (corbeau rally type) only, 5 pt seat belts, rolling cage ... The "graphical painting" became part of the French look, mainly due to two shops (Teo'z racing car and T'Fabs who committed the orange notch). These guys are quite crazy when it comes to use a spray gun and masking tape. But it's not the norm, not anybody can do or afford that. On the contrary the German look would be more "strict "in appearance : darker color, at least not flashy (silver gray ...), things like large fenders (for beetles), "crystal" headlights, smoked tail lights... The modern look is inspired by actual German sports (Porsche!) cars. The German look is more oriented towards performance than look : the goal is to have a "grand tourisme" car to be used on the autobahn. Huge engine, and performance parts everywhere are "de rigueur". Comfort inside for long distance driving is of a greater importance than for French lookers. Bernard Seront serontb@free.fr ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/