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<x-charset iso-8859-1>well im using 40 dells and there taller than dcnfs with short 4 in manifolds from csp . there are available manifolds for t4 so you can use dcnfs go to the t4rum at the shoptalk forums and do a search on dcnfs see what turns up . charles. what exactlly are you thuinking about there at ln engineering with regards to a 4 into t3 kit??? ive just fabbed up an air intake housing for the rear of my engine are you toying with makeing one? short manifolds mine at 4 inch are about an inch too tall 3 would have been better and left a little more room for an air cleaner . linkage that wont foul on the closed engine lid ? come on spill the beans there are more and more people getting into doing the big block thing to there v-dubs you guys making things easier is a gift to us all. neil verdon. 66 sqr irs pan off the speedo if i can. ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-charset>