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Thanks for the replies, here's more info: I get the first 2 clicks when I turn the key on. One click and the next 1.5 secs later. Turn the key, and then I'll get a tiny amount kickover (that 'little fire or 2" as Keith put it, but the engine stalls. On a second try, nothing. This is the usual thing. The 180ohm reading I got was indeed for the HEAD temp sensor. I know, cold its supposed to be 2500, and when I checked this I had the ohmmeter connected to the wire that leads to the HEAD temp sensor and to ground. I have been in the practice of turn the key on and off a few times to build fuel pressure before initial startup. If I do this and get a couple tiny fires and then the engine stalls, it makes no difference if I do it again after the engine has stalled. It happened AGAIN tonight (that's 3 times in 24 hours), and this after I had let the car rest at least an hour. -- Mike Wodkowski 72 FI SQBK Brooklyn wodkowski@mac.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe