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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Probably needs lubrication on the starter shaft gear, and/or brush or commutator overhaul. Info on the club website under electrical; starter overhaul. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>