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<x-charset iso-8859-1>> A wire brush that fits into a drill, some safety goggles, and time :) Next up in aggressive rust removal is a wire brush designed for a grinder. That takes it off pretty well - at least to the chemical treatment stage (or the holes!). Take care with your eyes and even exposed (human) body surfaces; the broken ends of the wire spin off pretty fast. Cup brush or bevel brush with 'knotted' wires both work well on heavier metal. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe </x-charset>