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<x-flowed> did VW or anyone else ever do a crash test on a type 3? or has anyone ever been on one themselves? im always in arguements with people about it, they think that since the engine is in the back, that any front end hit will kill me.....i dont think thats so, because of the way the back of the bumper is up against the front end... any ideas? SIR.LANCE _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-flowed>