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Marlin, I ordered a kit for my Notch thru J Bugs. I had to tell them that my front seats were the 64 style as they are rounded on the top corners, not squared off like 65 and later low backs. Mine fit like they were supposed to(look good too), and the only real problem I had was the rear seat back, as I think it originally came from a fastback before I bought the car ( it was a tight fit to stretch). I hope this helps. Bob 65 Notch S w/Sunroof ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe