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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Thanks guys, I see I'm getting the answer I was afraid of, it's possible (I've got one almost in now) just a big PITA. I think I was hoping there was a special tool or something Travis '66 Fastback ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>