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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Perhaps we should be thankful that parts are available, but then again, when you consider the ability to go to a Volvo dealer and still get original, genuine parts for a P1800, yet be pushed to the side by your local VW dealer when you go for a state safety inspection sucks! (please pardon my language) Volkswagen of America (and Volkswagen AG for that matter) should get their heads out of the sand and begin to actually DO SOMETHING about servicing their customers. Without advertising the Eurovan based Transporter panel van in the Canadian market, VW Canada developed a strong following. All I ask of Volkswagen is the ability to have a choice in product as a consumer, and to continue to support the vehicles built with parts availablity and service training to those who want it. When I moved to Boston in May 1998, the folks at Brookline VW were excited to see my 1960 Beetle when I arrived for my Massachusetts Annual Safety Inspection. When I moved to Burlington, Vermont the following year, I drove to Lewis Motors in South Burlington, VT and instead of seeing the interested service consultant and the technicians who all gather to see a 40 year old daily driver with its original 36 hp motor, I was simply told "we don't work on air-cooled cars, we won't even do the state inspection on it". My point? When someone says we are lucky parts are available, I can't help but think how lucky the companies like Volkswagen are that they have such a devoted following and a market of owners and enthusiasts who want continued service and parts availablity for their little cars. Allyn de Vars 1962 and 1963 VW 1500 Karmann Ghia Coupes 1967 VW 1600 Squareback 2001 VW Golf GL TDI -----Original Message----- From: DGaries808@aol.com [mailto:DGaries808@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 9:16 PM To: topnotch@nycap.rr.com Cc: type3@vwtype3.org; vintagvw@listproc.sjsu.edu; list@hvwc.net Subject: Re: [T3] Seals and Rubber That's not J.C. Whitney's fault. It's WCM's fault. WCM makes most of the replacement seals, anyhow, so one can generally fault WCM. So, what's wrong with seals that are 2" too long? Just cut out the part you are not going to use. There is something else that I spied in VW Trends or Hot VW's. Some seals have built in obsolescence; i.e., they don't last more than a year or two. There's something that you can treat them with, but I forgot the name of the product. That's what I'd be watching out for. One has got to realize that these seals are for 35-40 year old cars. We are lucky to even have replacement rubber for them. Consequently, if you have to cut out a portion of a piece of rubber, just do it and pat yourself on the back at what a good job you have done. I once restored a 1964 Type 34, for which there was no rubber at all. I did so by substituting three-makes-two, etc. The Type 34 looks great. Don Garies dgaries808@aol.com In a message dated 1/13/02 7:30:00 PM Central Standard Time, topnotch@nycap.rr.com writes: << Subj: Re: [T3] Seals and Rubber Date: 1/13/02 7:30:00 PM Central Standard Time From: topnotch@nycap.rr.com (Keith Park) To: type3@vwtype3.org JC Whitney is a defect and overstock clearance house. You may get good seals from them,, but they have them for a reason.. and its usually returned or defective. For instance, I got WCM door seals from them years ago... great... but they were 2 " too long... which is why WCM sold them to whitney. I cut out 2" and was happy, had they been too short.. When ordering from whitney you gotta ask yourself one question: DO I FEEL LUCKEY?? Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com 71 Squareback (with no empty nipples!) 65 Notchback (still suckin its gas!) 65 Squareback 75 Opel 87 Golf 88 Rx7 10th Anniversary ----- Original Message ----- From: <veedub@apartment101.com> To: <type3@vwtype3.org> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [T3] Seals and Rubber > I don't know of the quality, but JC Whitney also offers rubber seals that > way. Maybe somebody can vouch for their seals. I've had great success with > some of their other parts. > > Jason > 68 Notch (Nadine) > > I proudly buy my aircooled parts and service from... > The Bug Stop > www.texasbugstop.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason Weigel" <notchboy@home.com> > To: <type3@vwtype3.org> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:28 AM > Subject: Re: [T3] Seals and Rubber > > > > This reminds me of another possible supplier. I used to be a Mopar guy > with > > a 50 Plymouth and a 53 DeSoto wagon. I ordered a catalog of > > parts/elec/rubber available for my cars. The rubber section consisted of > > side views and dimensions and was special ordered by you by the foot. All > > generic. I believe I got the catalog from Hemmings Motor News. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Doug Hampleman" <doughamp@yahoo.com> > > To: <type3@vwtype3.org> > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 4:53 AM > > Subject: FW: [T3] Seals and Rubber > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [T3] Seals and Rubber > > > > > > HOO Boy, Now I are an expert. Anyway, the full extent of the wonderful > > > wisdom I was about to impart was that this topic was brought up a few > > > weeks > > > ago by one of our members, Mr. Daniel Baum. He has a web site with some > > > pictures of his car he has fitted with 'generic' seals. Heres the link: > > > > > > http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/dbaum0000/lst?.dir=/My+1969+VW+Karmann+Ghia+ > > > Type34&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/dbaum0 > > > 000/lst%3f.dir=/My%2b1969%2bVW%2bKarmann%2bGhia%2bType%2b34%26.src=ph%26 > > > .view=t > > > > > > I'm afraid the link isn't working since it is more than one line and > > > won't > > > copy into my browser. > > > > > > In response to my Email query off the list he responded as follows. I > > > hope he won't mind if I copy his Email here: > > > > > > "I bought them from a specialist car-rubber shop in Tel Aviv. > > > I imagine this is a bit far for you, but I can't believe there is > > > nowhere in the US that sells similar stuff. > > > I found the shop by going into a garage and asking them where they would > > > go if they were looking for universal rubber seals for an old car. > > > The round profile rubber in the photos is particularly useful, because > > > it has a metal-reinforced lip that grips whatever channel you have there > > > for the original rubber. That's why the door seals look authentic. They > > > are then held in place by the trim and a metal plate which seems to be > > > designed for holding the rubber in place, without any need for glue." > > > > > > I did a search and here are some manufacturers that might be able to > > > help. I haven't checked any of them out yet, but this is the route I > > > was > > > thinking about taking. > > > > > > http://www.car-stuff.com/carlinks/body.htm > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > 79 SB conv (nice) > > > 71 Ghia conv (in need of major rustoration) > > > 70 Fasty ( almost a daily driver) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe </x-charset>