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If you use J-tubes, or even heater boxes for that matter, you can buy thick, weld on, 2-bolt flanges from anyone that sells EMPI products. (empi part #3510 for 1 3/8" *stock*, or #3841 for 1 1/2"). They come in packs of 2, so get 2 packs. Weld one to the j-tube or heater box, and one to the header on each side and trim or grind the excess metal inbetween. This will eliminate the donut gasket and clamp and will probably eliminate any exhaust leaks too. It did for me. -Phil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org