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Re: [T3] Muffler wars....with Bugcity


On 21 Feb 2002, at 11:00, JBowen7@aol.com wrote:

> Help me out here.  Read from the bottom up, my email to Bugcity and their
> response to me.    I asked you all about a week ago what parts these numbers are
> for.  Mr. Adney responded the the 061F was the late model muffler and the
> 341.251.061B number was for the mid years muffler.  I think it's laughable the
> response I received from Bugcity.  Thought I would share. Who's right here?

They're wrong about the tailpipe #. Any VW number ending in 251 061 will be 
a muffler. If you want to use this mid year muffler, you need the damper pipe 
# 311 251 157 and the tailpipe extension # 311 251 185. If you get all three 
of these parts, they will fit together on your car, just fine. As I read their 
(poorly written) note, I believe that they are admitting that they didn't send 
you what they advertized, but that they are declining to do anything about it.

I note that they have another one of these up for auction.

The late damper pipe that you already have is worth more than the early pair. 
I carry all of these, and would be willing to trade you and pay your shipping, if 
that would help. I realize that this is not what you really wanted, but it will 
work and it is much more cost effective than shipping mufflers around the 
country.

Jim

> >Subj: Re: NOS German Volkswagen VW Type III 3 Muffler >EBAY Item # 601626331
> >Date: 2/20/2002 6:36:11 PM Central Standard Time From:    bugcity@bugcity.com
> >To:    jbowen@pollution.org (Bowen, James (TX)), >jbowen7@aol.com
> 
> 
> >According to 3 independent sources WAWD Distributors, >Rocky Mount and Bugcity
> >p/n 311251061f is for type 3 >mufflers 64-73 only one p/n exists, they are all
> >the >same.
> 
> >The auction photo is the description and clearly shows >this muffler with no
> >tailpipes or damper.
> 
> >Also auction states using the original heater boxes, >maybe you do not have
> >these.
> 
> >Would you like to purchase of  these?
> 
> >p/n  341.251.061B refers to a tail pipe to 1971, which >we were not part of the
> >auction.
> 
> >This muffler lists for $235 in rocky mountain, I'm >sure you can re-auction it
> >and have no problem getting >your money back if you don't it.
> 
> >Dave@Bucity
> 
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: Bowen, James (TX) 
> >>To: bugcity@BugCity.com 
> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:35 PM
> >>Subject: NOS German Volkswagen VW Type III 3 Muffler >>EBAY Item # 601626331
> 
> >>Bugcity: 
> 
> >>I received the NOS German Volkswagen VW Type III 3 >>Muffler (eBay Item #
> >>601626331) in good shape at my >>house last week.  Thank you for your prompt
> >>>>delivery.  I'm satisfied with this transaction except >>for the fact that
> >>your item description on eBay >>listed this muffler as "German Made with a
> >>nice >>finish p/n 311251061f."  The muffler you sent me is >>not p/n
> >>311251061F (which is the part number for the >>late model {'72-'73} VW Type
> >>3s), but rather p/n >>341.251.061B (for model yrs before '71).  
> 
> >>I own a 1972 VW Type 3, for which I purchased this >>muffler for.  When I saw
> >>your auction for the correct >>muffler for my car (as indicated by the part
> >>number >>you provided) I made sure I won the auction.  
> 
> >>Did you send me the wrong part?  If not then I feel >>you misrepresented the
> >>item you were auctioning.   I >>really didn't want the mid years muffler with
> >>the two >>piece tail pipe.  I wanted the muffler I thought I >>was getting
> >>(based on the item description) through >>your auction, for which I already
> >>have a one piece >>tailpipe.
> 
> >>I have yet to leave any comments on your eBay >>username.  I am waiting to see
> >>what your response to >>this email will be, and what, if any, retributions
> >>>>you'll be willing to make (i.e.. sending me the >>tailpipe that fits this
> >>muffler).
> 
> >>I look forward to your response. 
> 
> >>Thank you, 
> >>James Bowen 
> 
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Jim Adney
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Madison, WI 53711-3054
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