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I'm confused here. These heads come in an EFI version with the threaded hole, but the hole is too big for our sensor? Or is the boss cast in and left blank, so that you can drill and tap it yourself? What's the price on a regular head? How about an EFI head? (with valves, etc and bare?) Or is there a web site that covers all this? Jim Adney **************************************************************************** ****************** Jim, The cost is the same for the EFI or carb head , it seems that the carb head uses larger valves than the EFI head. My EFI head has tiny exhaust valves with stumpy (thick) valve stems. both have the EFI bosses casted in them but the EFI one has the boss threaded way too big for the sensor that the type 3 uses. The new type one engine manufactured in Mexico uses an advance type of EFI that uses a bigger head temp sensor. Best to buy the carb type head and tap the boss for your sensor requirement. Both castings are the same. The Bug patch sells the head for 110.00 dollars . It seems that the middle man for these guys work larger valves into these heads and the work is of good quality. The owner of this establishment takes pride on what he sells and works on. His site is below with prices and all. Make sure you are getting a Genuine VW Mexican head because he also sells Autolinea/CB from Brazil . I have been to his shop and he is good people, give him a call with requests. Like I said the new Mexican heads this gentleman sells have been enhanced with larger valves as it would seem, I did not buy these because I wanted to see what was actually factory for my version of durability. Real professional Baja racers swear to the reliability and quality of these Mexican heads. This place is local to me . http://www.thebugpatch.com/ I bought my head for 150 dollars from the VW dealership in Mexico, it cost this much because it was a dearship. Beetlemex sells the same unmodified factory VW head for 100 dollars but it is a Bare head with no valves/springs and keepers. The gentleman that I spoke to can sell the correct original hardware for the head but did not specify the price because no one has ever asked for the original hardware, customers use the bare head as a blank slate to machine in bigger valves and stronger springs . The reason I believe the factory stock setup is better for me or people who are similarly destructive is because the smaller valves and seats gather and lose heat faster , especially at the exhaust valve area, it is harder to cool off a bigger block of metal than the smaller block of metal, same goes with the valves, the head looks and weighs the same as the stock heads you are familiar with but careful inspection, will show that these are different castings, engineers at VW changed that for a reason. To some of you, the tiny valves look like they belong on a lawn mower. The space between both valves and the space between the plug hole and seats is relatively huge (1/2 to 1 inch) compared to performance heads or even stock German ones, this seems to have been done to prevent cracking under high temperatures and load , remember these go on cars in Mexico City (above 10,000 feet elev.) many hills and big families. The bugs are also used for delivery companies, taxis, police cars, security etc... if you ever seen a picture or a video of Mexico city , you will notice that at least 15 to 20 percent in the picture are VW Bugs. The cars are also used in areas where I used to live, the temps routinely got to 120 degrees while my buddies and I where either packed in a Bug or a Brazilia on our way to the beach. My buddies never had a problem with their cars, my jeep always broke down in that hot weather but their cars always kept going. This may be due to the head design. On the outside, the casting shows smaller breathing runnners but big holes for fresh fan air to flow through and cool the exhaust area. the smaller runner breathing may have been compensated by eliminating the casted in valve guide bosses and shortening the stock valve guide. All out drag racers or big breathing type performance folks may not like the smaller (limited) runner design but others may prefer durability with good performance. Most performance heads have traded long life reliability for speed/power . The head I have runs way below standard operating temperatures that Baja bug guys told me it should be in during desert offroad driving. runs about 75 degrees below their operating temps of 350 degrees. Big bore engines may benefit with these better cooling heads. Check Beetlemex out, they have lots of good stuff for bugs that can be used in our cars for example , cases , longblocks , seatbelts all made by VW of Mexico. http://www.btlmex.com/store.asp http://www.btlmex.com/product.asp?0=201&1=210&3=54 Beetlemex, Inc., (DBA Btlmex, Inc.), 441 N. Grand Ave. Suite 7-350, Nogales, Arizona 85621 Toll Free Tel. (888) 384-2814 Fax and Voicemail: (309) 216-4650 Offices in Mexico: 011-52-(662) 210-7878 E-Mail: Sales@btlmex.com <mailto:sales@btlmex.com> http://www.thebugpatch.com/ ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/