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BryanM=> how much difference is there in output => between a stock 1500 and 1600 The horsepower difference between the 1600 and 1500S is negligible, but there's a clearer difference between the 1600 and 1500, whether dual or single-carbed. You'll also notice that there was a further upgrade of the 1600 exhaust after FI was introduced. => we do not have the preheat exchangers The rear exchangers can be difficult to find in decent condition, true enough. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 KG1600 ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/