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<x-charset iso-8859-1>If the pan on the stick shift is good then just swap pans. How ever if the auto pan is better then just convert it, Take your time and spend a weekend , or a long day , and make it a stick. Ive done it 2 times, its not hard, you will need a welder and a 5/8 th outside diameter steel tube , about 73 inches long(i might be off on that) and a grinder for the welds. I am fully satified with no problems on my conversions. hope this helps, Bryan 71 - the Square formerly known as an automatic ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-charset>