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Hi all..... The late model solid state type III clock usually fails in the plastic gears, not the electronics. There is one small bevel gear that cracks and then free spins on the shaft. If you find one that starts and runs for a bit with the hands moving and then stops... it is due to dirt. Clean it with a liquid cleaner such as a few have advised, let it dry over night (important) and try it again in the morning. All of the late model clocks have a metal back (not plastic) and the face is painted black, not gray. I get about 3 out of 10 of the late model clocks working again and out of those 3 only 2 will work after a few months. You can use an early mechanical clock and just paint the front metal bezel Simi-flat black, or you can swap the one from the later clock... lens should work too. Keep Them On the Road.....Pat @Volksclocks ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe