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Nah, he's only 10 days older than me, and he promised we'd grow old together.Got plenty of time! Can you see us two old fogeys out there (years & years down the line ), using our combined strength to tighten some odd bolt up to torque specs? :-0 Sue 70 Fastback-AT and my true love Bob w/ 65 Notch Carrie wrote: You never know when he might kick it, get out there and learn grrrlie! *grin* ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org