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On 4 Apr 2002, at 15:57, orntar@att.net wrote: > Well i think i have narrowed it down. when i first start her up, she runs > fine for a few minutes the the number 2 injector starts to get saturated > with fuel and it runs into the plug. thats when it starts to lope and loose > spark to that cylinder, could it be shorting out the injector or the spark > plug? Your crimped-on hose is leaking and needs to be replaced. You should probably replace the hoses on all 4, as well as all the other fuel hoses in the engine compartment, assuming they are all equally old. This is a very common problem. It can cause engine fires, but, unfortunately, doesn't make the engine run poorly. > if the injector is leaking that much fuel do i need to replace it or could i > just fix it somehow? new injectors at my vw shop runs $75. it appears to be > from the little hose mounted to the injector its self. I have not done the > drip test from bently. The test in the Bentley is concerned about an internal leak, such that gas leaks thru the injector and into the engine. I gather that your leak is external; this is completely different. Frankly, I've never seen an injector that had an internal leak that made any difference that I could tell. I have new injectors for $40, but yours can probably be fixed by carefully cutting off the crimp sleeve without cutting into the hose nipple underneath. Then you can just use a piece of standard 5/16" hose and a hose clamp to replace it. Remember: You MUST be careful when cutting off the crimp sleeve, or you'll make it impossible to get the new hose to seal. Don't try to just replace the one piece that is leaking now. If you do, you'll find new leaks in the next fitting down when you put it back together. This is inevitable from the disturbance you must cause just to remove the injector. In the end you can do everything in 2-4 hours, or end up replacing one piece at a time and take the whole day. - ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org