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--> and this pipe looks like it hooks into the fan shroud, should it be plugged or connected to something? http://home.att.net/~howelln/magna/pipe_bg.jpg That pipe is just a handle. It does have a bolt inside that bolts the two halves of the fan shroud together. I propose a new term for the dictionary: BO - A PO that stinks. D e r e k F l e n n i k e n 1971 Squareback and then some San Francisco, CA derek@enth.net ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org