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>>I called TMI they told me to slide the shaft out of the visor. The shaft that bolts to the car, not the small one that goes in the clip. You have to pull pretty hard.<< Hmm. I tried this without any luck, but maybe didn't pull as hard as I needed to. I'll give it a try but I think reconditioned original visors might still be the best bet. Scott 62 1500 Ghia 65 1500S Squareback Sedan ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org