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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Good info... I used a COFAP cam many years ago when I built my first motor, its the only thing that survived the synthetic oil. Its still in there with over 100K on it and no problems... question is, can I still buy with confidence if I see a NOS cofap cam at a swap?? I even got the -2 gear i needed already installed back then. keith ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Adney <jadney@vwtype3.org> To: T3 List (E-mail) <type3@vwtype3.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [T3] engine diagnosis > On 30 Oct 2001, at 20:17, Keith Park wrote: > > > You may want to read Bergs writings on the cams. He goes through painstaking > > procedures for breaking in new cams these days and NOTHING will ruin a cam > > faster than the cheap non-German lifters... probably your entire problem > > here. > > I actually got to talk with Gene a few years ago about this. Here's what he > had to say. Keep in mind that this was ~15 years ago and everything's > changed since then: > > About cams: All the world's sources of VW cams can be divided into 2 > groups, Isky and various OEM makers around the world. Their cams all have > the same metallurgy, so you can choose any cam you want without concern > for where it comes from. > > About lifters: There are many VW lifter manufacturers around the world, and > there are almost as many kinds of metallurgy in the lifters they produce. If > you want a lifter that will work with your VW cam, however, there are only 2 > sources that you can buy from with confidence, either OE VW, from a dealer > (or from Berg, his were OE VW at that time) or you can buy the 3 piece > Brazilian lifters that come in the blue and white Eaton box. The latter were > somewhat lighter, but they carry a downside in that there is a little snap ring > inside them which can work loose and then work its way thru the filter screen > and destroy an oil pump. This doesn't happen often; I have an engine that > went 100kmi with these with no problem. > > The lifters which I had bought came in a plain brown wrapper marked simply > "Made in W. Germany." They were junk and Gene knew all about them. He > told me that they were too soft and just how soft they were. I measured it on > a Rockwell tester we had at work and he was exactly right. The OE lifter that > I measured was harder, right where Gene said it would be. > > I've followed Gene's advice since then and never been burned again. > > Today's story is different, however. The new cams are no longer made with > the same metallurgy and Berg has had a terrible time getting a quality > product that they can sell with confidence. I don't think there's much they > can do about it since they just don't have enough buying power to dictate to > the manufacturer's what they should produce. I think it's all about the fact > that there are few aircooled VWs made in the world today, so VW doesn't > have the clout it used to, but I've got to wonder what the BeetleMex engines > use. > > Myself, I stick to reusing good used stock VW cams and Berg lifters. If you > want a performance cam I don't know what you can do. I would at least ask > the cam maker what he recommended for lifters and see if you can > guarantee compatability if you buy both from him. > > - > Jim Adney > jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, WI 53711-3054 > USA > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org > > </x-charset>