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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Well Mark and everyone, yeah your are right, I just want to make this better for everyone, machining was not really a minor annoyance, quality should be top quality. I used to work in a test equipment manufacturing plant and boy I was always fighting quality problems but I fixed alot of problems. The machining around the combustion chamber was good as well as the exhaust ports. The intake needed flashing removed; all other machined areas seemed kind of offset and rough, I complained about that but it is useable, my two major complaints were that one of the head bolt bosses next to the rockerarm boss had one side of the raised areas almost machined off, yes very unacceptable I returned the head. My other problem was that te sales man told me that the heads had an EFI boss casted in but in reality they did not and always charged 15 bucks to weld one in, I am getting a free boss with my new head. I understand that Berg uses original VW German heads. I have original Type 3 heads and about 4 original bug heads all with problems to correct (my doing) I have compared castings and the MOFOCO ones kick VW butt (blasfamy!). It especially kills all non vw german ones. Casting is clean and smooth, no flashing or bubbles; big MOFOCO letters casted on the outside, Made in USA casted on the inside, A bunch of extra fins casted in, Thicker combustion chambers. I really do beleive that these were casted at airplane parts plant as they claim, the quality shows. but the machining of the areas I mentioned did not even beat the quality if you drilled it with a hand drill, it is useable but damn !!!! not darn professional, I can do it better with a hand wood drill. Their machine shop is across the street from their warehouse and has no phone. I was told it is part of their operation. They made the excuse that their cutting bits were not sharp and would be corrected. How about the centering of some of the drilling, they had no idea what I was talking about until they received my bad head. I will try to get them to clean up their act or I will mention them to some magazine editors. I will still get the heads installed since the machining was acceptable at the places where it counts, combustion chambers, intake and exaust ports (ports needed a little machine flashing deburring. I need to experiment on these heads with torture temperature testing. Mabe use them for the Type 3 Invasion, if they still exist. Maybe these are the answer. My major problem with heads, was the quality problems from the crooked plug bosses of the universal Brazilian heads and the occasional fallen tin that killed my VW and aftermarket ones; also a leaning problem and a non advancing dist prob. took care of two vw heads. I will now have temps sensors on both heads. I just want to Leon proof this engine so I can drive 800 miles South to my dads ranch where it is 120 degrees in the summer, many beetles live there, do this as ,often as I want, I really use this car. Anyone out there wants to sell an airconditioner? yeah I know.... I have some tricks up my sleeve. LEON MARTINEZ 1969 SQUARE EFI/AUTO IN THE CAR HOSPITAL WAITING FOR HEAD TRANSPLANTS SAN DIEGO AND TIJUANA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mark wrote, >Leon, while reading your correspondence to MOFOCO, you seemed >to tread very lightly on them for what you called minor grievances. >But I'm not sure I'd classify such a lack of attention to >machining detail as a minor annoyance. >Level with us here- Were you being diplomatic with them in the > hope of getting them to actually make things right for you > without more hassle? (I'll admit that's what I'd do in your >position). >You seem to imply that the MOFOCO casting is better than >what you find elsewhere. Is the basic MOFOCO casting >better than what Berg uses? -Mark Fuhriman </x-charset>