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Re: [T3] MC/brake lines


On 21 Oct 2001, at 4:45, Square67@aol.com wrote:

> I dont know if they are turn wrong, but my brakes worked great a few
> years ago(last time I drove it) and so Im assuming they are fine, Ive
> never really messed with them other than adjustments.

> All fine. BUT if even if my rear were all out of wack(besides a
> leak), wouldnt my front engage better than they do? Dont the front
> brakes engage 75% or so more than the rear?  I have to pump way too
> many times to get pressure. I know that after a few pumps ALL of my
> brakes engage otherwise I wouldnt have such good pressure and
> braking power when I do pump. Anotherwords after 4 or so pumps
> they are just about perfect. 

It is the nature of the system that the pressure in both systems 
(front and rear) will always be equal, unless one piston is bottomed 
out. It seems likely that if you didn't pump, but just pushed down 1 
stroke, you would have one system working and the other one not. 
If you could determine which one was NOT working at that time, 
you would then know for sure where to look for your flaw.

> Is it possible to vacume air somewhere but not leak fluid?  

It's possible, but in that case you would usually find your system 
getting worse each time you used it.

> Ive been through my system so many times now that I understand the way
> they work better than ever before, but i just dont get it. Its a
> simple concept. Im missing something somewhere.  
> 
> Also, why would my brakes have really good pressure when Im parked?
> Its when my wheels are turning do I have problems.  

You mean you don't have to pump when you're standing still???? In 
that case, I'd take the rear drums off and make sure all the 
hardware is in there right, especially the angled adjuster screw 
slots. Then look at the front rotors to see if they have big 
accumulations of rust in some places which might push the pads 
back as the lumps rotate past them. If this were the case, their 
might not be anything wrong with your hydraulics at all!!!

> To make sure Im bleeding correctly....... bleeding procedure is as
> follows:
> 
> start with farthest from MC first, Right Rear: pump till pressure,
> hold. open valve, close valve. release peddle.
> 
> Left Rear, same
> Front Right, same
> Front Left, same                                  Is that correct? 

At this point, I don't think the order matters. What matters is "Do 
you see air bubbles coming out?" I generally use an 18" hose into 
the bottom of a liter pop bottle. Run the hose all the way to the 
bottom of the bottle so the fluid that accumulates there will keep air 
from running back up the hose. Form a small upwards loop just 
outside the bleed valve so that bubbles will tend to drift away from 
the bleed valve. Just open the bleed valve and let the person at the 
pedal pump continuously. You will see that the fluid moves mostly 
outward with small inward bits as the pedal comes up. You only 
have to open the bleed valve 1/2 turn.

Watch for bubbles. I don't think you are going to see any.


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Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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