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<x-charset iso-8859-1>They're usually called "early" or "late". The early ones are up to July 69 and slope down more with the badge on the slope, while the late ones are all the rest and have a more sudden curve with the badge on the vertical face. I just didn't like the 'pig-nose' image someone called the late ones, so I suggested shark-nose! Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe </x-charset>