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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Actually, the rood issue is where John Jaranson helped me out as its his expertise. As I recall ( I wrote it a while ago) the cross braces keep the side pillars from folding inward in a rollover and the inherant cross bracing of the sheetmetal on the roof aids in stiffness but from practical application adding a rag is still feasable. Perhaps John will speak up and add his thoughts. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: phillip bradfield -- volkshaus <phillip@volkshaus.com> To: Type 3 List <type3@vwtype3.org> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: RE: [T3] The safety FAQ > Keith: > > What is your basis for the structural integrity lost when a full length rag > top is installed? > > I don't think this is true particularly in a Squareback. The black screwed > in cross supports can't offer much structurally. I believe that these only > keep the roof from loosing its shape in the instance of objects placed on > the roof. > > The only cross support that could offer some structural reinforcement is the > larger welded in support close to the rear (of a Squareback). If a rag top > is installed correctly, this support is unaffected. I'm not an engineer, but > the strength is in the pillars and the perimeter of the roof, not the roof > itself. > > If you cut the roof off and made, uh, a roadster, that's a whole new > ballgame. All integrity in a rollover is lost. The windshield frame, and A > pillars aren't enough to support the car. A rollbar would be a necessity. > > I'm not sure about the Fastback or the Notchback, but I believe these would > even more integrity given the smaller roof surface. Has anyone had the > headliner out of these cars? My Notch has the headliner intact. > > Your trickery isn't working on people who've succumbed to the dark side. > > 8) > > Phillip > > -- > > Phillip Bradfield > > http://www.volkshaus.com > > 1969 Variant - Savanna beige, No engine, Chopped 3.5 in. > > 1968 Variant - Granada red, No engine, with 67 euro fenders > > 1963 1500 - Ruby red, 1600 with dual Solex carburetors > > 19?? Sandrail - Primer, 1835 with dual 40 Dellortos > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe > > </x-charset>