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Jim - I understand your concern, and I am not insulted at all. I don't want to be forever restoring as well. Can you tell me the advantages to taking the pan off for T3'S? I have never done any pan-off work but have done other extensive restorations. I will send you a picture off the list. << Please don't take this as insulting. I truly mean it in the best, most encouraging way. I hope you stick with your type 3 and learn to know it inside and out. Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe