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Jim - I am asking because I am wanting to do a clean restoration starting at the ground floor. Please inform me about why it is so difficult. Thanks - Wilson 69'Square Is there some reason that you think this would be useful? The best thing to do for your car is to just make a mental list of all the things in your car that are not working right and start out to fix them one at a time. >> << > Has anyone here ever taken the pan off your Type 3? >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org